RichardKula> This facing the face is a necessary part of the path to Oneness but then there is love... so it is worth it.
*Presence*> So this was THE moment for me: to realize there was no separation whatsoever. Separation never occurred. Could not. Whenever we think of, live in separation, we are merely dreaming a meaningless dream, "because it is not of God. For meaning comes from God. God is meaning. If I believe in separation, then I believe in nothingness, in illusion".
Branwen> I think in order to really love you have to accept yourself first, people who are afraid to do this will refrain from deep love
ava> you must first kill and murder, to find out that it's not the right way. We need all those experiences to heal ourselfes. Everything must become from your hart. There is no good, no bad.
canuckm> Man/woman, have created and maintained gods down through the ages, because they have no faith in themselves. I think that is changing and rapidly.
Branwen> I think nothing will change, just as all is one, there is no actual future and past!
ava> yes, Branwen, it all start by accepting and loving yourself!
*Presence*> Branwen, ava, canuckm, thank you for your words!
canuckm> branwen. you went to school to learn to read and write and all the other things, life is the same we must live many lives to learn to be ourselves
*Presence*> You are what God is by God's will (which happens to be your will also because that's all the will there is and ever will be). God is ONE. YOU ARE that ONE. There are no "others" out there, because that is quite impossible. God is complete in every sense; SO ARE YOU. There is no distinguishing or discriminating attribute that renders differential uniqueness or individuality within this complete ONENESS. And there is no "without" either, because NOTHING exists outside the ONE."
canuckm> All through my childhood and younger years, I tried to understand "religion" and finally about 15 yrs ago, gave up and took a new path, self enlightenment, now I am at peace with myself and the world.
Branwen> C, I do belive in that and I don't know the thruth but there hasn't been a lot of progress since the Neanderthalers. I mean, realisation might have grown, but in one century time there have also been developed many terrible devices to kill more people!
ava> we must become complete. every other human being is a part of ourselfes. so, when you dislike an other person, try to realize that you dislike a part in yourself. That is often very difficult for me, but I feel it is true.
*Presence*> ava, it is, indeed!
canuckm> "religion" is a business, the audivity of them to think that they can intercede with a god to save our souls
Branwen> To my regret I have to take a brake, I hope I'll be back in 20 minutes, bye *s*
RichardKula> We have had many people realize Oneness along the way since Neanderthral Man (whom I feel no connection nor do I think there is one) and others realizations have contributed to even this event happening today. It is all a process of unfoldment... of Oneness... which is why we must actively pursue our paths and this will not only help us but the others (illusion but understood as the expanded self).
canuckm> in rosacrutionism there is an experiment where you see someone who is unhappy, they used a crossing guard as an example, you were supposed to smile and wave to them and think thoughts of love over a period of time and it works. i turned a preson who didn't like me into a friend
ava> Presence, thank you for your wise words, this was my first 'private meeting'. it was wonderfull. I must go now. All my love to all of you. I hope this will happen again.
RichardKula> Religion is a natural process by which we protect our spiritual ideas... but it takes on the negative sides to humanity as does everything else... even new age thinking with its rules such as Thou shalt not judge, I need no teacher, I am where I am supposed to be because Spirit will lead me, Discipline is unnecessary, There is no truth, There are no Truths, There is no absolute, (this all becomes a new religion of ideas and our human ignorance creates another religion.)
*Presence*> Yes, a change of mind must occur; there is no other way. Thus far the mind has attempted to function in an unnatural manner, acting as if it were fragmented and separated. Hence have fragmentation, separation and confusion been projected onto the world, and therefore the assertion that all is not well indeed. The malady is at the level of the mind, and must be corrected there. But all mind is just one Mind. Mind is not a collective of minds, or a summation of little minds. Mind is singular, indivisible and coherent. The change of mind needed is only the realization and acknowledgment that there is no separation from Mind. It is always one Mind, the same Mind. There is no fragmentation, no division, no conflict. Separation is entirely impossible, there being no mechanism to effect severance from Mind. Where there seemed to be a malady, there is now none; where it appeared that all was not well, there are grounds to proclaim that ALL IS DEFINITELY WELL!"
canuckm> Much too short Presence. thoughts of love to you and the world
*Presence*> Love and Light, ava, thank you for attending!
JUNE> I must go...I don't want to but I must. I love you all and will see yyou later today sometime.
*Presence*> {{{{JUNE}}} Peace to you, dear ONE!
Beth> (((((JUNE)))))) Peace, dear one.
SCOREPIO> JUNE..Good bye.{{{§§HUG§§}}} Love you.
*Presence*> Until now, religion, science and tradition have been utilized to provide a formidable defense for the erroneous concept of separation, with the resultant state the world is mired in. But by using them in a different manner, these same operatives will now come to the aid of the mental exercise of changing the world to reflect the fact of one-mindedness, Mind. This is the domain of the possible. This is the essence of salvation. This is the unfailing hope and confidence in humanity. It is the fact of ONENESS, the principle on which human existence is based. In the light of this fact all problems are dissolved and disappear; in the love of ONENESS, basks the foundation of eternal existence for man. For Oneness is Mind, and all is of Mind; all is Oneness. All efforts must now be deployed in the fullest realization of this fact. Every known resource must be utilized to acknowledge it and show this fact to be truly functional.'
*Presence*> Dear Oneness: I must now go. Thank you so much for attending!... This meeting will take place again in two weeks from today. Same room, same time. Please feel free to stay here and share more if you wish!
SCOREPIO> *Presence*....Good bye my friend. :-) (*HUG*) Thank you for sharing. :-)
*Presence*> {{{{{SCOREPIO}}}}} See you soon, pal! :-)
RichardKula> Thank you Presence and much love for your work and dedication to this Truth of Oneness. Love,
Richard Kula aka Derek Lamar
*Presence*> Namaste, Richard-Derek Oneness! Love to you!! {{{HUG}}}
Beth> Thank you so much Presence...Everything you haev said, strikes a chord of "remembrance" in me.
*Presence*> **************Peacefully, Blissfully G * O * N * E **************
Oneness... Part II